{"id":4255,"date":"2019-08-02T18:40:22","date_gmt":"2019-08-02T18:40:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/resistantbees.es\/?p=4255"},"modified":"2025-09-01T14:35:24","modified_gmt":"2025-09-01T14:35:24","slug":"es-gab-frueher-100-verschiedene-milbenarten-im-bienenstock-die-ohne-probleme-zusammen-lebten-was-koennen-wir-daraus-lernen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/resistantbees.es\/?p=4255","title":{"rendered":"es gab fr\u00fcher 100 verschiedene Milbenarten im Bienenstock, die ohne Probleme zusammen lebten – was k\u00f6nnen wir daraus lernen?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Dee Lusby zeigt uns wieder einmal sehr interessante Dinge auf.<\/p>\n

Was haben die mehr als 100 verschiedenen Milbenarten, zu denen auch die Varroamilben und die Tracheenmilben z\u00e4hlen, f\u00fcr eine Beziehung zu den Bienen?<\/p>\n

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Mites associated directly and indirectly with honeybees…..<\/h2>\n
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\u00a0Posted by:deelusbybeekeeper<\/h4>\n<\/div>\n
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This is for Marshall and others here since just gotta post this and stir
\nthe pot now since the USDA mite survey with me I am considering they are
\nburying…………….!!!!Honeybees ALONE are associated, directly and indirectly with a hundred or
\nmore different mite species although most of these mites appear to be
\nnatural predators of other mites that live with bees (none of which attack Varroa
\nmites). Also some of the symbiotic associations are commensalistic while
\nothers are parasitic. and this was published with Griffiths et
\nal….1983…Varroa–The acarologtists‘ view,….and cited by Cavallora, 1983…Varroa
\njacobsoni Oud. Affecting Honey bees: Present Status and Needs. A. A.
\nBalkema, Rotterdam. p107Now to clarify more, though here might be stirring more:Two organisms living together in a close association with at least one of
\nthem benefiting from the association are said to have a symbiotic
\nrelationship. Examples of types of symbiotic relationships are mutualism, in which
\nboth organisms benefit from one another; commensalism, in which one
\norganism benefits and the other neither benefits nor is harmed; and parasitism, in
\nwhich one organism benefits while the other is harmed. In a parasitic
\nassociation the parasite is usually referred to as the symbiont while the
\norganism being parasitized is generally called the host.Parasites are considered to be efficient parsites (as pointed out by
\nSouthwick, 1988) when they approach a commensalistic existence, i.e. , when they
\ndo not seriously harm their host. A parasite’s host is likewise an
\nefficient host if it does not strongly react to it’s parasite. Thus through long
\nperiod of time, if the populations are allowed to live together under natural
\nconditions, the parasite and the host population may adjust to one
\nanother, and the parasitic symbiosis becomes more commensalistic. At one point
\nduring these long-term adjustments, there usually becomes a thin line of
\ndistinction between parasitism and commensalism , and the two organisms has less
\ndifficulty in coexisting.So here to me this is like ticks grooming hairs on ALL KNOWN livestock,
\nincluding honeybees, which trachael mites did prior to upsizing being called
\nthen VAGANS, and varroa mites did prior to upsizing being called head neck
\nand back mites pre-1917 times…….which I have gone over and over here,
\nagain and again for noting…………..———————————————
\nNow for more pot stirring: commensalism with two organisms co-existing
\nliving\/working together could be …..(hehehe\/lol) man then keeping honeybees
\nfor pollen, propolis, honey getting……………..<\/p>\n

Parasitism with two organisms co-existing living\/working together could be
\n……(hehehe\/lol) man enlarging honeybees artificially for slide of hand
\ntricks for stealing all honey\/pollen and propolis he can, while feeding back
\nartificial feeds of HFCS, sugar and artiticial pollen, and treatments
\n(offset the propolis taking too)…which can keep bees alive, though not very
\nhealthy and needing constant overseeing to keep going.<\/p>\n

Anyway,………………food for thought here ….for man to keep
\nevolution going with healthy food, we do have to co-exist with honeybees and work
\nthem properly……..<\/p>\n

Comments back welcomed…………..<\/p>\n

Dee A. Lusby
\nmoyza, ariozna<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Re: [beekeeping_apiculture] Mites associated directly and indirectly<\/h2>\n
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Posted by: deelusbybeekeeper<\/h4>\n<\/div>\n
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Now continuing more: if 100+ mites have been previously said to be
\nassociated with honeybees, then if only trachael mites and varroa mites are
\neffecting them due to upsizing, they are pretty much ALL good mites, and size
\nback down, then even trachael mites revert back to VAGANS and varroa mites then
\nrevert back, to head, neck and back mites….. and all no
\nproblems…………….leaving man,… the parasite then for $$$ wanting\/doings in our
\nworld of agric, which needs clean organic healthy food for evolution to go
\nforward for humans besides all plants and animals, and much cleaning up now
\nto get the chemicals\/pesticides, herbicides, bacterialcides, etc out of our
\nfood chain, and water for then humans being healthy too!.besides all other
\nlife on earth…<\/p>\n

Dee A. Lusby<\/p>\n

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